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More Email From Bobby Today.

From: “Robert XXXXXX”
To:
Subject: RE: Weak blog
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:31:34 -0700

“The Turd”,

I’m seriously doubting your achievements sir though you probably are the .edu type who has been going to school as long as you can to avoid the real world and stay in your left wing utopia….so in that case, you probably do have and have required more schooling than myself. If you think that starting a free blog and calling yourself a dipshit name like Lefty McLefterson is an achievement, then you’re doing well sir.

If you’re such an intelliegent guy (as you claim to be….probably because you have the illusion that people respect bloggers), then why would you make a decision to forego your “regular” college years to enter something so cruel and evil as the US Military??? Sounds like you may have put a price tag on your left wing beliefs.

If you assume that I listen to FOX and right wing radio, you would be correct. You should try an alternative source of news sometime…..instead of being spoon-fed a pretty picture of how Obama, Pelosi, and Reed are making this such a beautiful country to live in. Have you noticed the unemployment rate lately (I’m guessing you’ll blame that on Bush too…..as your side thinks he even created Hurricane Katrina). Obama promised that the unemployment rate wouldn’t go over 8.5% and now it’s nearing 13%! The mainstream media doesn’t seem to bring that up??? Weird. The mainstream media has done a great job in covering Obama’s “apology tour” to Russia and the Middle East…..essentially explaining that the US is now a weak country that apologizes for decisions we’ve made to protect ourselves. Have you noticed how in his first few months on the job, the inexperienced and arrogant Obama has spent more of our money than all of the other US presidents combined. Keep listening to Air America or watching PMS NBC and you can be a happy, ignorant guy who drives a Prius to feel good about himself. Take a good look at any Democrat run state and you’ll notice high unemployment rates, high taxes, and economic downfall (Michigan, California, Minnesota, Ohio etc etc). Your side bails out and rewards failing businesses and industry while they penalize those that make profits and operate correctly. Lefty, it’s a bad thing when your candidate wins an election and radical countries/dictators celebrate the results….think about it.

….and you talk about Republicans ruining the country pre-Obama!?? Are you serious? Since 2006, the Democats had the House and Senate…meaning Bush couldn’t get any kind of tax cuts pushed through…..and the Democrats would gladly trade the common good of the country to gain votes in the ’08 election. Your side simply cares about getting elected and couldn’t give a shit about the country. The economy was largely great during Bush’s 8 years and unemployment was low…..so do your research before you run your lips. The war was also a good decision. Has our country…..your children, experienced any form of terror since 911??? A terrorist group kills thousands and shakes up our financial world and the Democratic stance on this would be to sit back and blame ourselves for being arrogant Americans???! Anytime you take the side of the French, Lefty,….it’s usually a bad thing. Weapons of mass destruction were not found, but who cares….we took Saddam at his word when he claimed he had them….and he was also harboring terrorists. So in your mind, and even being an alleged veteran, you would let a punk group of terrorists kill thousands of Americans, on our soil, and do nothing about it??? That whole scenario should question your judgment and manhood. You seem to be the type of guy you’d see wearing a Lilith Fair shirt and having way too many bumper stickers on his hybrid. The war was a good move, and I’m not saying that we started it to find WMD’s or to liberate people, we chose to enter Iraq because that’s where Al-Qaeda was operating out of. Your side also signed off on this remember….

Make your own decisions in life, don’t let elected leaders think they know what’s best for you and your family. Respect the Constitution. The best way for someone to pursue and achieve happiness is to earn it on their own….and not have it given to them.

Figure it out. Get out of the classrooms and coffeeshops and get into the real world Lefty. And please get off your Mickey Mouse blog and contribute something of relevance to society.

There’s still time for you to be straightened out…..

Let me know if you have any questions.

Robbie

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Hey Kids, so Bobby fired me one back this morning. Wow, that dude loves to spew the pooh.

The profanity count for my reply is as follows

fuck : 7 (or derivation)
shit : 15 (or derivation, but turd doesn’t count)
ass : 2 (or derivation)
dick : 1 (Cheney doesn’t count)

from Lefty McLefterson
to “Robert XXXXXXXX”
subject RE: Weak blog

Dearest Bobby (or should I just call you shithead),

Jesus Christ dude, it’s going to take pages to answer, and I still won’t have the energy to refute all of your lies. I’ll do the best I can.

Among your many problems (among them I’m guessing home dentistry and numerous incest related genetic abnormalities), is the fact that you listen to your Right Wing horseshit so much that you’re incapable of independent thought. You keep wanting to pigeonhole me into your neat little Liberal Democrat boxes. You seem to think that I”m some academic granola munching tree hugger who’s never had a real job like say Joe “The Plumber” Wurzelbacher…oh hold on..he’s not a plumber is he?

Let’s start from the top. I don’t give a shit if you doubt my achievements or not. There’s nothing you can do to change them. You probably are just some angry dude with some shit job who’s so pissed about his life that instead of trying to make things better you’ll look for a scapegoat. I’m trying to pigeonhole you too here, but you’re really coming off as a dumbshit here Mr. Turdilicious.

I digress…

I’m certainly not an .edu type. In fact, I completed the vast majority of my undergrad and both graduate degrees while working full-time. Do you know what working full-time means Bobby? I’m also into the hard sciences, not that fruity liberal arts stuff. Man, I hated those classes. But at least I took them. You may think that you’re some beefy tough guy and that I’m some skinny little pushover, but like most of the “facts” that you’re absolutely sure of you’d be wrong there too.

Left wing utopia? WTF? Do you really believe that people think that way? Every piece of textual diahhrea that spills from your keyboard is just another Right Wing stereotype. Give me even one original thought.

Now just for the record, I don’t think that the general public even has an opinion about bloggers. We create disposable media. I think that the very best thing about being a Left Wing blogger is the chance to torque up Right Wing whack jobs such as yourself.

Let’s move on to my military service.

Who the fuck are you to suggest any insight into my military service? And where the fuck do you get off suggesting that a Liberal wouldn’t serve in the military? We’re not all pacifists dummy. I was an Arabic Linguist for 7 years you fucking moron. What the fuck have you ever done? As it turns out, I was lucky enough to have a commander in chief who didn’t send the US Military to invade a soverign nation as a first resort. Ya see Bobby, when people go to get themselved ed-ju-ma-cated they learn things like how to solve a problem without having to use a gun as a first resort. But maybe some sympathy is in order for you clueless Republican bastards. I mean after all, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. How can we expect Republicans to think their way out of problems? That’s just working without tools.

Now you said that I couldn’t polish a turd, well your next bit is the crown jewel in your own private turd crown. You think of Fox “News” and Ring Wing radio as alternative news? Your sources of news are well documented GOP propaganda machines. During the Bush administration both Fox News and Right Wing radio routinely met with White House staff to push their own talking points.

Can you even concede that Fox “News” is at the very least is as much opinion as “News”? Are you even capable of gathering facts and coming to your own conclusions instead of just parroting whatever talking points Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly, etc. has decided to champion that day?

Part of your problem is that you are so invested into your dogma that you’re unable to concede anything. As if you believe that admitting that if any single point of your Conserative dogma is disproven then you’re wrong about everything (which you are). If you were capable of defending your ideas with logic or god forbid facts then you might not be such a dogmatic jackass.

You seem to think that just because I’m a self admitted Liberal that means that the Democratic party is my religion in much the same way that the Republicans is yours. Sorry turdburglar, but that isn’t the case. As it stands I don’t think that Obama, Pelosi, or Reid are doing nearly enough. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. They should chuck this bipartisan crap out the window and just concentrate on kicking the Republicans in the nuts repeatedly for as long as they can. Who gives a shit if the Republicans are on board when we’ve already got the votes to get stuff passed. The Republicans don’t really care about any bipartisan solutions. They know that the credit for anything good that happens will go to the Democrats. So, rather than doing what’s best the the country, the Republicans are lock-step in obstructing any ideas that come from the Democrats.

In your next few paragraphs you’re spouting a bunch of bullshit statistics. Why don’t you come up with references for ANY of this crap? Did Obama really promise that unemployment wouldn’t go above 8.5% or is that just some crap you head from The Pig Man Rush Limbaugh? You may dislike Obama, but he’s a damn good politician. Do you really think that he actually promised that unemployment wouldn’t go above 8.5%, or do you think you might be full of your favorite substance yet again?

Does the left really believe that Bush caused Katrina? Or do you think it’s a whole lot more likely that we’re upset that he completely fucked up the Federal response? Did the buck stop with Bush for anything he screwed up? Do you think he’s responsible for any of the problems he caused while in office? Or is responsibility only for Democrats?

I’ll say it right now. You’re goddamn right that the US should be apologizing for some of the shit that went down during the Bush Administration! Apparently you see that as a sign of weakness, rather than as an indication that we’re getting our shit together. How childish. We should have invaded Afghanistan AND we should have stayed there to finish the job. However, YOUR president had daddy issues to deal with and Cheney had money to be made, so we pulled a good chunk of forces out of Afghanistan, let Bin Laden get away (Tora Bora) and proceeded to invade a soverign nation. First they said it was because of WMDs, then they said it was because Saddam was a bad man, and then they said it was because of terrorism. Seriously dude, you expect me to believe that you gave a rat’s ass about Saddam Hussein before the Bush administration made him an excuse for starting a war? The invasion of Iraq had zero, nothing, nada, the same number is your IQ to do with defending the United States of America. And hey, as an added bonus, the bullshit way in which we rounded up “terrorists” on the middle East right after 9/11 isn’t exactly covered in the constitution either.

Your characterization of Obama’s trip abroad as an apology tour is more Republican propaganda. I won’t bother trying to convince you otherwise. Since apparently every single American news outlet is in the pocket of the liberals why don’t you try going to the BBC or maybe Der Spiegel and seeing how they spin it. Or are they secretly in the pocket of the Liberal media too?

If only that were the case…

So how does it work for you Bobby? You’re all about freedom and democracy, but only for Americans? Did you whine and cry after 9/11 and think it was okay for the government to start stripping away our liberties because you were scared? Do your ideals only mean something when you’re comfortable? Are you a local Wal-Mart shopper since you like buying your 99 cent T-Shirts that are made in China more than you like making sure that your money (as much as possible anyway) stays in the USA?

His first few months on the job, Obama has had to deal with the worst economic downturn since the great depression. And guess what, that stimulus package is part of a larger plan (certainly too complex for your turd-fille pea brain to comprehend) to try and make sure the economic downturn doesn’t turn into another depression. What’s your plan? To hope that Corporate America doesn’t screw us too badly on our way down to the bottom? Give me a leader who will try to solve a problem before it turns into a disaster over a leader who sits by and allows say 2 planes fly into the World Trade Center and then shrug and say he couldn’t possibly know it was going to happen.

Another lie “Obama has spent more of our money than all of the other US presidents combined.” Yet another lie. He’s been in office for less than a year. It isnt even mathematically possibly, but then I shouldn’t really expect you to reason that. I imagine that you can’t even count to 21 without taking off your pants. If you want to look at the REAL figures try the White House Office of Management and Budget — Historic Budget Tables. That’s the real deal man. Or do you think the Liberals have fudged the numbers there as well?

You make another point and how supposedly Democrat leadership in a state is a some barometer of fiscal health. Do you know what fiscal mean Bobby? It’s a big word. Why don’t you use “The Google” to figure it out. So take a look at this interesting little study which demonstrates quite clearly that it’s the RED states which feed off the teat more than the BLUE states. Bobby buddy, how could that be the case if the Blue states are so fiscally irresponsible? Try not to hurt yourself thinking about this one.

As for the Republican controlling the show prior to 2008. Your boys owned the house from 1994-2006, and all 3 branches of government from 2001-2006. Don’t sit there and pretend that somehow you guys don’t have a lot of responsbility for the steaming turd of an economy that W left in office (at least it’s a turd, so you and enjoy that). Is there enough blame to go around? Yup. Are your stupid fucking tax cuts the solution? Nope! The economy started tanking well before your boy left office. And just for the record jackass, why don’t you look up how many months it was into his term before he created a single job?

Let’s quote you here. “The war was a good decision”.

And you measure the success of the Bush administration by stating that we’re safe because there hasn’t been another terrorist attack since THE BIGGEST FUCKING TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL IN US HISTORY!?

That’s like saying that the fire department is doing its job because my house hasn’t burned down again since 2001.

Face it Bobby, your boy dropped the ball. He went on vacation after repeated alerts and even a Presidential memo entitled ‘Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US’. Download it yourself. Do you think that I somehow faked this. Note that it’s dated August 6th, 2001. Why the hell was your boy on vacation when he was supposedly protecting us?

And how’s this for a bonus of just how much a piece of shit YOUR president Bush was. After 9/11 he could have done anything. He could have united the country and said that we have to get off foreign oil, since so much of that money goes straight into the pockets of people who are trying to kill us. So what that he do? He uses all of that sympathy for the US, all of the good will, to get a tax cut for the rich passed.

The decisions after 9/11 were the easiest ones that a President could have made. You go after the bad guys. But Bush boned that decision too. After sending our men and women to Afghanistan which is where they should have gone, he pulled them into Iraq. Bobby, quick quiz. Who said this? “I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Hussein] was involved in 9/11.”? It was Dick Cheney dude! He must be a commie or something. Or maybe you’re full of shit about this too.

So which dictators exactly celebrated when President Barack Hussein Obama won? I just like the sound of that. Say it with me Bobby: “President of the United Stated Barack Hussein Obama”.

Another quote from you “Your side bails out and rewards failing businesses and industry”. Just who was in office then the TARP program started up? Ooops…what this? An article about BUSH asking for $700 Billion for a bank bailout. Hold on a sec, isn’t George W Bush a Republican? Hmmm…well maybe you’re just full of shit about this as well.

So let’s review all the stuff you’re mistaken about dipshit.

1 ) I’m not an .edu guy

2 ) I’ve been working in the private sector for years

3 ) Fox “News” isn’t news. Opinion is not the same as news.

4 ) Invading Iraq had nothing to do with defending America.

5 ) I rarely listen to MSNBC or Air America

6 ) I don’t drive a Prius

7 ) I wouldn’t go to Lillith Fair. Those lesbians would beat my ass.

8 ) Yup, I’m still a veteran.

9 ) I live in the real world.

So let’s review what you’re 100% correct about


um…

You’re right to apparently be a fecalfeliac because you are full of shit.

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Finally Bob, save your condescention. It’s not the same as logic. Your life probably sucks and I’m doing just fine. If “straightening out” means turning into a bitter old loser like yourself then I’ll keep my LIBERAL curving ways.

My guys won and I hope that we’re only a few months away from Universal Health Care for us all. This is the worst economy in our lifetimes, so try not to be such a dick.

Lefty McLefterson

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Here’s a little exchange I had with Rob. How many times does he have to call me a turd before he’s officially a fecalpheliac. I’m not sure but man he really enjoys talking about turds.

Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:07:10 -0700
Quoting “Robert XXXXXXX” :

You’re a turd…….and you can’t polish a turd.

Guys like you just kind of “happen”, I mean, other men don’t strive to be like guys like you, and women surely don’t want a man that can’t make decisions in his life as you clearly want the government to do that for you. Guys like you whine about not wanting to trust the government….but then you vote to make it larger. Do you read newspapers shitbird??? Have you noticed the national deficit? Do you know what that even means? Have you noticed the government takeover of various industries?? Your side “wishes well”, but doesn’t understand the business side of anything.

You’re a turd, get used to it.

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from Lefty McLefterson
sender-time Sent at 2:29 PM (GMT-05:00). Current time there: 4:57 PM
to “Robert XXXXXXXX”
cc leftymclefterson@leftwingconspiracy.com
date Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:29 PM
subject RE: Weak blog

Robbie,

I will stack my life and achievements up against yours any day. I almost certainly make more money than you do, and unless your name is Dr. Robbie I have more education than you have.

I’m also a veteran so you can’t jerk off about how I never served my country either.

I pay a shitload of taxes and I’m a liberal. That means that I support policies that may be against my economic interests. But I also have children and I know what kind of world I want them to grow up in. It’s not one run by a bunch of selfish and hypocritical Republican turds (as you so elegantly put it).

You guys had your chance and you ran the country into the fucking ground.

I bet you weren’t bitching about the deficit when W was starting a war every 6 months were you turdboy? As for making the government bigger…didn’t your boy W create the Department of Homeland Fatherland security? The biggest expansion of government in god knows how long.

I guess what you don’t seem to understand about business is that corporations by their very nature don’t give a shit about people. Their very reason for existence is to make money. So why in the world would you ever expect businesses to do the right thing? Ever???

I don’t get the feeling that you actually read the newspapers either. You give the me impression of somebody who wakes up to a nice cup of horseshit watching Fox “News” Channel, and then completes the mental retardation treatment with 7 or 8 hours a day of Right-Wing radio.

If you want to discuss an issue logically then go for it. Come at me with some facts. Otherwise, just enjoy the fact that you guys fucked our country up in ways that will take a generation to fix.

Lefty “The Turd” McLefterson

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Here’s a little something that MENSA Dave (he’s super smart and totally not a racist) posted to me on blog catalog

This is cut and pasted and spelling errors are his since MENSA apparently doesn’t ensure that members know how to use spell-check.

Posted: Saturday September 6th, 2008 at 00:26

Just ran across your Blog. I’m gald you are at least honest , and I quote “I make no attempt to be fair and balanced”. You have lots of friends – CNN, NBC, MSNBC, NY Times, Chicago Trib, LA Times. Fox is an advocate for the right, but they do not lie about it, or try to pretend otherwise. They do present both sides with the oportunity to express their opinions, no matter how distasteful, moronic or dishonest they may be. I used to be a Democrat. I still detest the Bush – Chaney Administration. But today I detest the Richard Daley Chicago Democratic Party that has spawned the likes of Harry Reed, Nancy Pelosi, and the Charletin con man Obama. So are you an honest blog. Then why not tackle this issue (I am white – a distastefull word, as is black, or red, etc; 60, educated, intelligent (mensa); semi retired oildield consulting engineer/supervisor with 35 years of work worldwide – I have worked and lived with people of virtually every racial and religious grouping on Earth)

Racism is “alive and well” (an expression), ALL over the world – try being Korean in Japan, or Philipino in Saudi, etc, etc, etc. In America, it is evident in the “white” population – 15% admiit to racial predjudices – 30% is probably more accurate. But 93% of blacks are voting for a black candidate in this years election Not a party “thing”, they polled that way against Hilary, a person who has done more for minority rights than any black man since MLK. Do you have the guts to address this issue – and why haven’t black “leaders done so? This is pure and simple racism at its lowest common denominator. Blacks (I hate descritors like that) represent 10% of the population and will probably over represent themselves in this years election – 12-13%. At a 90% spread (93-90 – poll numbers, not mine), and a dead heat election 42-42 (50-50), remove the black vote statistically, and the numbers are 56-44 Republican. If Obama somehow wins, this is NOT democracy, but a “coup” by a very, very, very racist group, to impose an ideology and agenda on the majority. If the party affiliations were reversed, I would argue the same. I meet and talk to a lot of people – smart people, motivated people – doers, not dreamers; producers, not promisers, and their is that awareness. This issue will be brought out of the shadows into the light. It can be a beneficial process if it stimulates honest discussion. If kept hidden it will breed more racism from the non black community, and a certain backlash that could set back racial relations in the US 30 years. Immagine 93% white, or hispanic, or women voting against not just Obama, but every black candidate that stands for office. Black reoresentation will plumit. It will happen. So do you have the guts to “get it out there”. Somebody will. This is NOT a right versus left issue. It is only because the left is gaining advantge from it at the moment.
I don’t know your blog, but a response calling me racist will be posted on other bulletin boards – you would look foolish (if you know my friends and familly and history). A positive response and action would be to your credit. The above news agencies won’t post – their biases are obvious. Fox will, but I haven’t gone there. That would be confrontational – not what I want. But I will go there if necessary.

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Posted: Tuesday September 9th, 2008 at 16:35

Dear Dave,

First of all, threatening that me calling you a racist will get posted on bulletin boards and I’ll be ridiculed and blah blah blah. You are certainly welcome to, but then you’re also welcome to kiss my ass Dave!

If you were serious about wanting to post some tough questions about my blog then why the hell didn’t you just submit them to my blog instead of over here? I’m pretty sure a MENSA member should know how to work that new-fangled email in the Internets.

You’ve got several ridiculous arguments in your diatribe so I’ll try and tackle them one at a time.

Your assertion that the media has such a liberal slant is just the usual Republican whining. Is your idea that if they disagree with the Republicans they must be Liberal? You are talking about the same media that spent the better part of a year in a witch-hunt over Bill Clinton’s blowjob. The same media that rolled over and let George W Bush get us into a bullshit war. They didn’t take him to task over his repeated lies about the intelligence leading up to the war, or maybe even the fact that he didn’t explore diplomacy, but just decided that it was time to invade Iraq. It took maybe three years for them to start questioning his linkage of 9/11 to Iraq, which we not know doesn’t exist. They also didn’t take him to task or ask him any real hard questions about his lazy-ass attitude toward international terrorism prior to 9/11 or his completely inept response to it. Let’s see, what else didn’t they call him on?

The media has consistently been so afraid of being labeled Liberal that they have slanted more and more to the right.

And I love how you concede that maybe Faux News is a little biased, but they don’t “lie about it or pretend otherwise.” Really Dave? They don’t pretend otherwise, so I guess their bullshit slogan “Fair And Balanced” is about weights and measures? Give me a break.

Faux News is the propaganda arm of the Republican party. Scott McClellan, you remember him, former White House press secretary says the White House routinely sent out talking points to Faux News
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/26/mcclellan-fox-talking-points/

But then again, he’s not saying positive things about Republicans so he must be a liar, right?

And let’s see, oh you’re not a racist because you’ve “lived and worked with people of nearly every racial group?” Somehow that means you’re not a racist? These two statements have nothing to do with each other. I love how you have to qualify your statements with what follows. It’s the equivalent of “Hey, I’m about to say some racist things, but I’m not a racist”.

I’m not crazy about the hierarchy of the Democratic party myself. They are way too conservative for my taste, and not nearly confrontational enough with their Republican counterparts. Hell, I’m not even going to argue with you being unhappy with Pelosi or Reid. They should hold you Republicans down and kick you in the nuts repeatedly, as the Republicans were only so happy to do to the rest of the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

You may not like Obama or want to vote for him, but a charlatan? Give me a break. I suppose you think he’s a Muslim too, which brings me to another point.

Really, Hillary Clinton has done more for minority rights than any black man since MLK? Where does that come from? The Institute of Statistical Analysis based in your ass? Hyperbole doesn’t become you Dave.

You are suggesting that the overwhelming support of the black community for Obama is all about racism? It couldn’t possibly be tied to the fact that the black community has historically sided with the Democratic candidate, or even possibly because the Republicans have done their level best for 30 years to piss all over Civil Rights legislation? It’s a little difficult to think that the Republicans don’t have a different set of standards for black vs. white / rich vs. poor, when you look at the way George W Bush drug his feet 3 years ago when hurricane Katrina hit. However, he was right on the ball when a bunch of rich white dudes up in New York started having money problems.

I suppose it’s not racism that a statistically significant (last I read 13%) of Americans say they won’t vote for Obama because “He’s a Muslim”.

Dave, I also love the way you whine that an ‘overrepresented’ black vote. I bet you didn’t bitch in 2004 when the Evangelicals turned out in droves because they wanted to vote against gays being able to marry. Yup, there was no greater issue facing the country in 2004 than boys kissing boys and girls kissing girls.

And here ya go Dave. For the money, so you can post to your bulletin boards. I think you’re a hypocrite and a racist. It appears that you’re unable to think beyond the boundaries of your own experience and I don’t want my children growing up in the world people like you would try and govern.

You’re certainly welcome to contact me directly @ leftymclefterson@leftwingconspiracy.com, but it’s probably be better if you just crawled in your hole and commiserated with the rest of your Republican dittoheads.

And of course, as always, you’re welcome to START YOUR OWN GODDAMN WEBSITE.

~Lefty

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From: pxxxxxxx@comcast.net
Date: Jan 2, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: Friendly Debate
To: webmaster@leftwingconspiracy.com

I completely understand that you a strong Democrat and i repsect this. I
just want to preface this email with the statement that this is all in
friendly debate.
That being said, I’d like to show you a comment i left on one of your
posters:

I find it slightly disturbing that you group Muslims in with terrorists.
Only a small group of Muslims actually are terrorists. I also find it
offensive that you bring my God into this as a BAD or INCORRECT thing. Last
i heard, your view and the view of this country is that we should separate
Church and State and you are actually doing the opposite by using religion
as a tool against Republicans. Besides, if you want to referance prayer,
then at least try and understand what prayer really is. And do it with an
open heart so that you might hear what prayer is and not something you may
just want to hear. By the way, i am well aware of your first ammendment
rights. I am simply expressing my own.

This was partly directed at the previous comment and partly at your poster.
I was also wondering why you are so determined to hate Bush? i understand
you disagree with many if not all of his policies, and i’m not saying i
completely support him, but i am simply asking why you are determined to
hate our leader in a time when unity is vital. A broken country is a weak
country and i am wondering why your blog is determined to hate Republicans
or right-wingists. The separation of this country is killing us and not
only do we need a unifying leader (REGARDLESS of their political party) but
we as citizens need to unify ourselves rather than focus on differences we
may have. I was wondering your views on the matter. Again, i’m not
attacking you, ahting you, or anything of this nature. This is simply a
friendly debate and i hope you will respect my opinion as much as i respect
yours.

With high regards,
Visitor Anonymous

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Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:13:13 -0600
From: Lefty McLefterson
To: pxxxxxxx@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Friendly Debate

Where to even start….

You think I’m a strong Democrat? How clear can I make it that the
lack of a backbone in the politicians on the Left makes me sick.
Everybody seems to be playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
All of our politicians need to stand up and let people know who they
are and what they stand for. Instead everybody tried to straddle the
fence on every issue hoping not to lose any votes.

Now you are complaining that somebody left a comment on my site that
grouped Muslims in with terrorists. Big deal. In case you hadn’t
noticed the entire war on terror that has been president Bush’s best
friend for the last 7 years is intimately connected with Muslim
extremism.

So next you’re ‘offended’ that “your” god has been brought into a
discussion as a bad or incorrect thing. Here’s the deal: your
president (’cause he sure as hell isn’t mine) has consistently invoked
religion, Jesus, god, and spirituality as a political tool.

The fact is that as a so-called follower of Jesus, George W Bush
continually tries to fuck over the poor in favor of the rich and well
heeled. His is the worst kind of hypocrite. He will invoke his
belief in god when it suits him, but he has no problem acting against
just about every tenant of Christ’s teachings. Can you imagine Bush
throwing the money changers out of the temple? Yeah, me neither.

Your next question? Why am I so determined to hate Bush? Well not
that it’s any of your business, but I don’t hate him. I don’t know
him. He disgusts me and I’m ashamed that he’s managed to slime his
way into the White House for the last two terms. He’s an
embarrassment to my country and the office of the presidency. His
disasterous foreign policy will be haunting the US for at least
another generation. And my grandchildren will be paying for his
deficit. In short, he’s the worst president I’ve ever seen in my
lifetime. But I don’t hate the guy. I hear he’s quite nice.

The other idea that we can’t dislike him “at a time when unity is
vital” is typical Republican bullshit. George Bush created the
situation in Iraq. He got us into a war of choice. Yes, he’s tried
to tie to to Weapons of Mass Destruction, then 9/11, and then just
terrorism in general. But the truth of the matter is that he wanted
to take out Saddam. Maybe it was some daddy issue, but our country
shouldn’t be paying the price for his dysfunction.

9/11 united the whole country under George W Bush. What did he do
with it? He got a nice fat tax cut for the rich. Imagine what a real
president might have done? Possibly captured Bin Laden in
Afghanistan? Possibly even made getting off of foreign oil a national
priority. Instead this useless president got a tax cut for his fat
cat friends and told us to go shopping.

We do need a unifying leader. So much damage has been done by this
administration and Republicans in general that I don’t think it’ll be
one of them. Why is my blog determined to dislike Right-Wingers?
Because they’ve fucked my country up.

~Lefty

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61 Comments

  1. Paterik Tobias:

    What is worse than politicians, both republican, and democrate, the administration, and the media? It’s all those Monica’s running oruond the country. And Lewinski was not the first. The entire US Congress, The Current Administration, and the entire media are living proof that there are a lot of women out there that either didn’t spit, or forgot to flush it, if and, when they did!

  2. TheGonz:

    Wow, Lefty.
    I think you just epitomized my entire political ideology. Thank you, I needed that.

    -The Gonz

  3. Baroque Obammovitz:

    The media is really a major problem in this organism. They knowingly build up and break down candidates based on their ability to drive advertising sales and make money. Barak is ahead in the polls, lets tear him down and build up McCain……. the closer they are , the more people watch tv and the more money we make.

    reality becomes an issue in this scenario, thus destroying our society a little bit every day. The pass Bush got on Iraq is a perfect example: the people were clamoring for blood and the media went along with it. disgraceful

    fed up. http://www.walkyourdogma.com

  4. ur momma:

    both of you are full of shit. Im not gonna sit here and say that bush has done a great job or that we wouldnt have entered iraq regardless of the twin towers and 9/11, but bush got a shit ton of shit thrown at him. between 9/11 and the nice economic buble reagan left bush entered in at the wrong time. the econonomy regardless of the war is going to dwindle reagonomics fucked us over by destroying the antitrust lwas and shipping jobs over seas. sure this helped us out at the time but now the consequences of his “quick fixes” are hurting us in a time when we need to concentrate on the war on terror and our fuel and not god damn fucking polar bears. GOD BLESS AMERICA

  5. God:

    About the grouping of muslims with extremism, if their religion is so pathetic to allow itself to be streched to the point where 17 year olds blow themselves up because they think it will get them laid, then nobody should have a problem with “grouping” the two together. i hate polar bears.SCREW ALLA.

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  7. Patrick:

    Finally someone who believes you cannot be too extreme when criticizing the Republicans and the damage their interpretation of christianity and patriotism has done to the future of this country. Some people believe they are simply misguided, mean, selfish, narcissistic, ignorant or un American. Having been a extreme right wing conservative christian republican I know for a fact the Republican’s motives are based on nothing short of a sadistic need to inflict as much pain and suffering on the majority of Americans as possible while doing the same to people the world over.

  8. ccs:

    i didn’t know you had a hate-mail bag! this is awesome!

    you’re moving up in teh internets.

  9. ur momma:

    damn you to hell you hippie weasel patrick im not liberaal cuz there gay im not conservative cuz there dick holes but u sir are a gay dickhole

  10. God:

    Alright Patrick, you definently needed beat when you were a kid, maybe your dad could of put a little sense through that liberal little brain of yours. Patriotism and Christianity are the only two thing that have kept this country alive for over two hundred years. And they are the only things that will ever save this country from liberal cock suckers like you. Besides if patriotism and christianity have to fuck the world over to keep amrica safe and on to, then why shouldn’t it? why shouldn’t the rest of the world be forced into believing the only true religion the only true way of life? why shouldn’t we pay for happiness with a small period of hellish world war to acheive true peace, or true unity, under one way of life?

  11. Dickbutt:

    Because you’re wrong, God.

  12. ccs:

    God, is that you? are you workin’ in mysterious ways again?

    well, there are plenty of cock suckers on the right… tap-tap-tappin their feet in the bathroom stalls. do you listen to their bathroom confessional glory-hole prayers too? you gonna save their marriages?

    God, please learn to use spellcheck, okay? please? you’re not really living up to your own omniscience!

    get pwned f*ckwad.
    get pwned in a lake of fire.

  13. ccs:

    it’s november 5th…

    where is your GOD now?

  14. LewisOfTheLeft:

    I fucking love this. This is the epitome of my political stance. Fuck all you wanker Republicans who don’t know what spellcheck is, all of you grow some brains. Bush should be tried for crimes against humanity but as we’ve seen from WW2 to the present day no Americans ever get tried for their cruelty to humans in a sort of Vae Victis mentality yet all you Reps are spouting about so-called ‘morality’ i.e banning abortion, taking away gay rights. Oh and ‘ur momma’ what a clever name, did you know it’s used by alot of kids on Halo Online Multiplayer? Thanks for fucking up the most powerful country in the world, Bush. Hey Christians, prove your god’s existance. It’s about as likely to exist as an invisible, inaudible, non-feelable forty-foot tall rabbit is sitting on your shoulder. Get into reality all of you and fuckin’ fight the power.

  15. IronySucks:

    I still laugh at the picture of the crying baby with the Republican badge on his suit. Haven’t you had full control of the government (sans the White House) since 2005-2006? Oh wait, you have. Approval rating? Sub 20%. Tax increase? Of course. Economic bailout package that will cost us 1.7 trillion dollars within 5 years? Yup.

    You must have lost your sense of smell, because you can’t smell the shit you’re creating.

    Now flame away, you bastards.

  16. anonymous:

    Ooh I’m really scared of you IronySucks. It’s funny how the stupidity of liberal arguments just makes me more sure of my views as a conservative. I can’t believe a liberal can even speak of economics without being ashamed of the stimulus package. It’s basically taking a situation that’s already bad and deciding to make it worse. Oh and the crying baby picture doesn’t make any sense because from kindergarten kids in school are indoctrinated with liberal views. It amazes me how liberals can accuse republicans about something that is true about liberals! I also don’t feel that I can expose faulty logic without addressing the comments of LewisOfTheLeft. You really think that Bush should be tried for defendng our nation and people who are not powerful enough to defend themselves? Maybe you should open your eyes to the fact that there is evil going on in the world and our country has the means to stop it. When this is the case it becomes our resposibility to stop it. Terrorists don’t negotiate. As far as your stance on abortion goes, I’m surprised that you don’t think of taking the life of an innocent baby as “a crime against humanity.” The conservative stance on abortion is about value for human life. You wouldn’t like it if people decided that it should be legal to kill people with weak political arguments because it’s more convenient. You wouldn’t stand a chance. As far as gay rights go, they have all the same rights as everyone else. The only thing they can’t do is get married; since you have quite limited knowledge I feel compelled to inform you that marriage is a biblical concept. Since gay people don’t believe in the Bible then what is the point of them partaking in a biblical concept? I don’t know any conservatives who discriminate against gay people but one thing I do find discriminatory is what you say about Christians. You made the weak argument telling Christians to prove the existence of God but until you can prove that he doesn’t exist you should keep quiet about the issue because your ignorance is becoming abundantly clear. Oh and about the spell-check thing, as long as we’re talking about things that are completely irrelevent I should tell you that I don’t need to use spellcheck because I know how to spell. Oh and I also feel the need to point out that you had a couple run-on sentences in your comment. This makes me wonder whether you graduated from highschool or just decided to drop out and live off of welfare.

  17. Lefty McLefterson:

    Anonymous,

    You write like a child. “I’m really scared?” Seriously.

    I’m not going to waste my energy tearing your points apart because frankly, you don’t seem worth it.

    Here’s it in a nutshell. Your boys had control of the government for somewhere between 8-10 years depending on how you want to figure it. Basically conservatives fucked up everything they got their hands on. You guys are like the King Midas of shit.

    Your policies don’t work. Trickle-down economics is about the redistribution of wealth from the middle class. And your stance on women’s issues have more with wanting women to be slaves to their uterus than about anything having to do with the sanctity of human life. You might be able to argue that one if Conservatives didn’t have such a chub-on for both the death penalty and gun rights.

    Or to put it in language that even you can understand. We won, so fuck off.

    Kisses,

    ~Lefty

    P.S. The next time you want to sling some of your horseshit on my blog try formatting your paragraphs, dumbshit.

  18. ANONYMOUS:

    hello anonymous (troll), WE’re pretty sure you’re not the true ANONYMOUS.

    you know you can’t prove something doesn’t exist, right? well, at least not in the sense you mean here. for example, WE can’t prove that unicorns don’t exist.

    from now on, please separate your comments into structured paragraphs before you complain about run-on sentences. for further reference, you might start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacking_faulty_reasoning
    y’know, do it for the lulz.

    FAIL God of FAILING FAIL troll is full of FAIL.

  19. anonymous:

    Hey, I’m sorry about those comments. I still disagree with the left wing but I realize now that I made you angry. It’s not that I didn’t mean to at the time but after I thought about it I realized that I don’t want to tick people off. ANONYMOUS, I didn’t mean to make you angry; I guess what I was trying to say is that we can’t prove that everything in historical textbooks happened but I still believe they happened. I think the Bible the same credibility but feel free to disagree. I want to be tolerant of what you believe too. Now that I’ve gone off on this tangent I’ll get back to what I was saying. I know you think that I’m angry because you “won” but that’s not the way I think of it. I was worried about some of Obama’s political views at first but I truly want him to succeed. Yes, I’m still a conservative but I apologize for the hostility of my comments.

  20. W. Mears:

    Great job Lefty, we need more progressive minded people like you to stand up to the Limbaugh/Hannity crowd. At least what’s left of them.

    Another Lefty
    slumdoggovernor.com

  21. Disinfecting Ur Momma:

    Oh, here we go again! Left vs Right Wing bullshit! I think both political parties are pretty much tanked. Our current President and the last three have shitted in the face of everyone, yet everybody appears to love eatting their shit. I think a t

  22. Lefty McLefterson:

    It seems rather appropriate that your initials are DUM(b).

    Are you another one of these lazy voters who just throws their hands up in the air and thinks that Democrats and Republicans are equally corrupt? That just demonstrates that you’re either too goddamn lazy or too stupid to read a newspaper.

    And by the way Einstein, you’re bitching about “Left vs Right Wing bullshit”? What the hell were you expecting whey you typed in LeftWingConspiracy.com?

    Idiot

  23. eleanor:

    Are liberals more likely to die of a weakened immune system because they are so angry? Better keep that anger in check or you won’t be around to spread your vial hatred of conservatives.

  24. Lefty McLefterson:

    Gee Ellie, I think you’re right. I should probably just ignore how the conservatives lie and distort everything rather then getting angry about it. That’s much better.

    But seriously, I imagine that conservatives are much more likely to die of their terminal stupidity than I am from disliking them.

    Plus, I love how you make it about the left being the ones who are full of hatred and venom. Watch Faux News much?

    Have a good weekend. If it rains you can blame it on President Barack Hussein Obama.

    I mean it’s not like I posted THIS.

  25. ANONYMOUS:

    hello eleanor. the spelling nazis concur that you should have used “vile” instead of “vial.” alas, spellcheck is not a context-checker, and thus your trolling is a FAILure. “vial” refers to a container. proper usage of that spelling would include examples such as “a vial of stem cells” or “a vial of swine flu vaccine” or “a vial of your mother’s tears.”

    take warning, madam, lest you mistake righteous anger for mere hatred.

  26. historiophiliac:

    Go Lefty.

    m[-_-]

  27. Lewis:

    Anonymous – so we have to disprove God before we prove him? I say there’s a 40 foot penis on your shoulder you can’t see or feel, so it must have a reasonable chance of existing. I’m going to build a church around this illogical belief, take people’s money, sit around all day doing nothing and not have to pay taxes.

    It’s just stupid. Those ‘babies’ cannot actually feel anything or have any emotions – I think you skipped high school science – so it will cause more good than harm to have them aborted if the mother so wishes.

    To be honest though I consider myself a leftwing Trotskyist and not just a liberal; as Lefty McLefterson stated in a reply to a piece of hate mail before he is sick of the lack of backbone with some people on the left, and I feel the same way.

  28. Lewis:

    Also Anonymous, faulty logic is assuming that something is correct so quickly and basing an argument off it, anyone who knows a scrap of shit about logic knows about this fallacy. And it’s exactly what you’ve done where you assume that Bush has ‘just defended’ your country. I would actually argue that he’s done everything possible to incense the Muslim world and turn them against the West.

    Don’t talk to me about logic you dimwitted fool. Get some fresh arguments and then come back.

  29. ANONYMOUS:

    @ Lewis… make sure you use the little “a” when you refer to that one. or else you will get splashed with the vile lulz in the vial.

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  32. ANONYMOUS:

    I remember a time not so long ago, several months after 9-11 but before we went into Iraq, when I was at “the job” and we had our quarterly “intelligence” briefing. (I worked [--REDACTED--]…in the defense industry somewhere out there behind a fence in [--REDACTED--]). We all pulled out the batteries from our cell phones, and watched the show. Of course, I’m not allowed to divulge any of that content, but suffice it to say that it was all lies. prophetic lies insofar as we actually acted on them, but lies nonetheless. that they presented this intelligence to people like Lefty and myself–who hold actual security clearances–as confirmed and true is very fucking troubling.

    anyway, Bob, you should back the fuck off on the personal attacks. if for no other reason, than simply because you have done nowhere near as much for the defense of the US as he has; our work is considered a national defense asset and it is very much directed at a CONFIRMED threat to our national security. if all goes well this year and certain milestones are reached, results could be posted in headlines across the globe, and certain despots will crap their pants. (and if that happens, i’ll do a nice little poster here for Lefty and watch you eat your words.)

    in the meantime, enjoy the security people like Lefty strive to provide for you and STFU.

  33. thebabbster:

    Just passing through. It’s nice to see someone really sticking it to the Far Right. I normally take myself as somewhat of a “wordy” guy. But I see that my skills are pale in comparison to Lefty. Fight on, Lefty! And while you’re at it, could you smite a few birther/truthers? (If you haven’t already) I really love to see those guys foam at the mouth a little.

  34. Ashley:

    Hi. I was just passing through in my travels through the web. While you do pose a good argument, there are a few things that would make it a bit more impressive. Use less personal attacks and honestly, I’m sure none of us care how many degrees you have, how much money you make or what you do for a living. All that is important here is that you pose a good argument for your beliefs. Beliefs, like opinions, are like assholes, everyone has one and no two people are going to see exactly eye to eye. As a conservative (not Republican), we have many differing viewpoints. However, I would like to correct you on a couple of points. FOX news IS a news station, no matter how much you left-wingers want to talk shit. It is truly no different than MSNBC, ABC, CNN, etc… the only difference: FOX has a differing point of view and they do report stories that the rest of the media tend to conveniently leave out. However, I believe that all of the mainstream media is inherently evil and nothing more than a propaganda machine, which is why it is important to stay informed and find things out for oneself. It is important not to let pundits such as Ulbermann, Hannity, etc to spoon feed you whatever you “know.”

    Libs such as Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, McCaskil, and Barney Frank do NOT have the best interest of our country at heart and are only concerned with pushing a radical FAR left agenda that is way out of touch with the beliefs of most Americans. Hell, almost every poll shows how disgusted Americans are with ObamaCare. And if you’re not I suggest you read the healthcare reform bill. That is some scary shit. In addition, the fact that the white house has posted a blog requesting people “snitch” on those who oppose ObamaCare is something that you left-wingers would have ran with had it been President Bush that posted something similar on his blog.

    Also, Obama DID say that the $787 billion Spendulus package would prevent unemployment from reaching double digits and it was consistently increased since such a pork bill was signed. I believe the speech in which he said that was in Indiana in February.

    I suggest that you do your reading from both left and right wing sites to get the BIG picture and also that you read the bills (or attempt to, since they are quite lengthy) directly from the congressional web page. They’re public.

    Anyway, however things turn out, you and I will be in the same boat.

  35. Lefty McLefterson:

    Ashley,

    This is probably a waste of time.

    1) Did you even read Turdboy’s e-mail? He comes out trying to pigeonhole me as a Liberal into all of the neat little stereotypes he’s been hearing on right wing radio and somehow I’m the asshole for pointing out how he’s full of crap? If some Republican jackass wants to make assertions about how I’m some jobless over-educated hippie with no connection to the real world then I’m going to correct him.

    2) Faux News is so much more opinion than news. You can whine all you want about how ABC, CNN, or MSNBC have some Liberal slant permeating their broadcasts, but the facts remain. Faux “News” consistently took their talking points and marching orders from the Republican White House. In most recent memory they continue to spout RNC talking points about health care. Even their morning show Faux and Friends is 90% opinion and 10% bullshit. Despite whatever conspiracy theories you have about “Big Media”, the three news organizations that you mentioned don’t take their marching orders from the Obama Administration. One can argue that since MSNBC puts up with Olberman’s newly found Liberal bluster as well as Maddow’s recent show that somehow MSNBC has a Liberal slant, but sorry lady that’s simply not an apples to apples comparison. Two shows do not a Liberal network make. Faux “News” is the propaganda arm of the Republican party. If you suggest anything else than you’re mistaken (that’s a euphemism).

    The myth of the Liberal media is just one of the many lies that Republicans have perpetuated over the last 2 decades. And to your benefit, the threat scared media outlets into actually leaning right. How else could you possibly explain the media completely bitching out and not challenging Bush while he marched us into an unnecessary war of choice while his predecessor got grilled over bullshit like Travelgate, Troopergate, Whitewater, and the infamous Lewinsky blowjob?

    3) Unless you’re psychic how is it that you have some kind of insight into the motivations of what you call Liberal (I call centrist) leaders in the Democratic party?

    4) “almost every poll shows how disgusted Americans are with ObamaCare”? Really Ashley? Do you even have a definition for ObamaCare? Or is Congress still in the process of writing the bill? How about this? Why don’t you do some reading for a change. Start here.

    5) You’re also mis-characterizing (big surprise) the White House blog post. Source article can be found here. Did you even bother to read the post? They’re asking for people to point out Republican Bullshit about health care that’s posted online so they can combat it. That’s a far cry from compiling an enemies list.

    6) Why don’t you post a link to the transcript of what Obama supposedly promised would be the outcome of the first stimulus bill? I can’t seem to find a quote of him promising that unemployment wouldn’t reach double digits. I’m sure that if it’s true then you’ll have no problem coming up with a link.

    7) So exactly what Right Wing sites would you suggest that I waste my time reading? Breitbart? The Sludge Report? WorldNetDaily?

    As a Republican are you unable to imagine a world in which journalism can be true without having to come from a Right or Left Wing source? Or are you so blinded by your political fervor that it bends what the truth is to what you want to be true?

    Post those links if ya got ‘em. I don’t even know why I bother.

    Maybe I should pass your email address on to Bobby? I’m sure you would make a cute couple.

    ~Lefty

  36. ANON E MUSS:

    oh c’mon, there’s gotta be more hate than this… i see tons of it on mah teevee all the time. trying to steel mah inshurance, my jerb, et ceterah. moar hate, please.

  37. ConservativeBadBoy:

    Wow! What a great blog. A perfect example of the vicious rhetoric that follows when Liberals avoid talking about the issues.

    You renew my faith in Conservatism 100% over.

  38. Lefty McLefterson:

    I noticed that you failed to actually present an issue to discuss. You seem to be just one more conservative coward. Too quick to run back to your right-wing echo chamber.

    Somehow I doubt you were on the fence about being a conservative and stumbling upon this blog was just that little push you needed to go back to the dark side.

    I think it’s quite a bit more likely that you’re just a conservative jerkoff. At least you’re not alone.

  39. ConservativeBadBoy:

    Actually, I didn’t stumble across your blog…

    I was Googling for the definition of “wingnut”. Your blog appears at the top of the list right after WhiteHouse.gov.

    Keep up the good work! Your almost the best at something!

  40. Lefty McLefterson:

    Thanks for proving my point.

    It’s easier for you to call me a wingnut than to try and defend your positions.

  41. Willie Pete:

    I like how you use Conservative and Republican interchangably, and from what I’ve seen you think Democrats are awesome. Your political spectrum appears to have two colors: red vs. blue. So much for being open minded.

  42. Lefty McLefterson:

    If the shoe fits.

    Republicans are the ones who consistently align themselves with conservatives, the neo-conservative nutbags who made up the Bush administration, and most recently the tea-baggers (snicker).

    Do I think Democrats are awesome? Nope. I have said repeatedly that they, led by President Barack Hussein Obama, need to man up and spend some quality time holding down the Republicans in Congress and kick them repeatedly in the balls.

    Bipartisanship is not going to work as long as the Republicans care more about making the Democrats look bad than actually solving any of the problems our country faces.

    From your smattering of comments across my blog you seem like a real smart one. I can hardly wait to see what dropping of wisdom you’ll be sliming across my blog in the near future.

  43. Willie Pete:

    Hey, we agree on something. The neo-cons are nutbags. You say you served in the military. Do you really trust the government to do anything right after that?

  44. Lefty McLefterson:

    I think your comment above is disingenuous. Are you, as a conservative, suggesting that the military are a bunch of fuck-ups? I doubt you would have made that assertion during the Bush years.

    If the government screws everything up so completely, then why are the insurance companies so afraid of the public option? Could it be that medicare runs administrative fees somewhere in the single digits (2-10%) and private insurance companies run somewhere between 15-30%?

    I don’t think the government is perfect, but when it comes to running things that people’s lives depend upon I’ll trust them a whole lot farther than a corporation who’s only reason for existence is to wring as much money out of people as they can.

  45. Sarge:

    WOW, I did not know that Democrats could read or write. Let’s face facts. Because I disagree with President Obama, I am a racist. Because I did not vote for Obama, I am a racist.

    For all your yapping, remember this: It took a Carter to make a Reagan. Obama is making the next president look so good.

    To make it clear, we (Conservatives and Republicans) understand when something goes wrong you blame us. It is easier to throw stones, then to live up to the truth. The Truth is the Truth even if nobody believes it; A Lie is a Lie even if everyone believes it.

    It is clear the mass majority disapproves of Congress and the President plans to bankrupt America, so what do they do, full steam head.

    Wake up, stop drinking Kool-Aid, and start to drink some Tea. It will keep your mind clearer and maybe you will be able to see the truth.

    A True American,

    Sarge

  46. Lefty McLefterson:

    Dear Sarge,

    You didn’t actually say anything in your post. Would you like to try again?

    You conservatives had the country, including all three branches of government for 6 years out of the 8 of W’s term. All you people seemed able to do was expose us to the worst terrorism attack in the history of our country, piss away the surplus, start 2 wars on a credit card, and the run the economy into the ground.

    I’m a true American as well. But I see America the way an adult does. I can acknowledge her faults and try to fix them. You want to see American as a child. USA, USA, USA. You think that anybody who can acknowledge her faults is somehow unpatriotic.

    Take a breath and try again. Tearing you conservative idiots apart is the most enjoyable part of my blog.

    ~Lefty

  47. Sarge:

    To – Lefty “The Turd” McLefterson

    You are one self-righteous ass. I will be glad to stack my achievement against you and your 5 best liberal friends. Some of the most educated people in this country are dumb ass liberal. Including my sister in-law. She has a PhD. from Yale and still dumber than a rock. In case you never noticed that your professors were draft-dodging piece of shit, they hide from the war and got a teaching degree (because it was the easiest to get). Now they teach their left wing cowardly way to the youth of America.

    Yes, I am a veteran too, do you want to compare yours military serve to mine military serve, I am sure you would whimper in the corner.

    As far as blaming George W. Bush for everything you are just wrong. Yes, the market fell and fell hard. Let’s remember that Barney Frank and then Senator Obama pushed to lower standards to get a house or any loan. That is the one truth and the only truth that caused the fall of the stock market. If you cannot see that you are blind.

    I realize that you and I disagree; I am not a racist because I did not vote for the unqualified President. I am not a bigot for wanting illegal aliens deported. No matter how many time you and your left wing friends say it. Think about it this way, if I am racist or bigot, then you wanting a rapist jail make you a sexist.

    Yes, I do not want to pay more taxes, but if all said and done, I am sure that the charities that I support get more money then you pay in taxes. I like to decide were my money goes. I don’t think that my taxes should go to a woman that thinks that killing a baby is a choice the choice was having sex. If I think we need a Frisbee park I will pay for it, if I think we need tunnels made to allow turtles to go under the road rather than over it, I will pay for it.

    Let me decide were my money goes, not the government.

    True Hard Core Conservative – Sarge

  48. Sarge:

    Lefty McLefterson:

    Where to start?

    1. A big Amen to Ashley.

    2. “ABC, CNN, or MSNBC have some Liberal slant permeating their broadcasts” some liberal slant, you have to be kidding. They roasted George W. Bush and one Anchorman was fired for making up lies. Who are you trying to kid?

    3. You do not be a psychic to see what they say. Don’t lie to yourself, it just scary that you can’t see it.

    4. It is true that the final bill has not been written yet. We have seen the crap they put forth before and only plan on changing a few small things. It is true that most American are disgusted with “ObamaCare”, I guess you don’t see that on ABC, CNN, or MSNBC.

    5. You are wrong about this; they want to watch people who have different view. Why is that any view that does not agree with you or the President is bullshit. Maybe you should read a little more, rather than listening the left wing media.

    6. She did miss quoted President Obama. He said it would never break 8%. That is the truth, try it sometime you might like it.

    7. It is clear that your mind is made up about what to read and watch. I understand that it might cause you or some of your liberal friends to get a headache. Thinking is not a strong part of a liberal’s life. The difference between a Liberal and Conservative. Liberal follow like sheep and want the government to pay every for everything and Conservative make a stand, but willing to listen.

    I do not need links to prove my point, plus most links go to a web page that is slanted to your viewpoint. The fact is that I can find a web page to say almost anything; I can find one that says the world is flat. Start drinking Tea and your vision will get better and the maybe you will be able to see the truth. That Kool-aid is just sugar and flavored water. Tea has caffeine and helps people clear their minds.

    Yes it true – Sarge

  49. Sarge:

    Lefty McLefterson:

    Blame, Blame and Blame.

    You have no idea. I know the faults of my country and work to correct them. I don’t live in the past I work to the future. Yes, please blame the conservative for everything. I guess that the leader killing people of Iraq were killing men, women and children for fun means nothing to you. Being a liberal you believe that a baby is a choice anyway. I guess the left wing media that called our soldier baby killer can’t see the light that abortion is really killing a baby.

    The main fault of this country is white guilt, that is why we allowed an unqualified man become President of the greatest country the world has ever seem. You see people, like me, as a threat, because we don’t what government running our lives. I can only hope that the white guilt is over.

    In closing: it took a Carter to make a Reagan, Obama is starting to make a Palin. Live with that. All your hot air means nothing to an American like me.

    A True American – Sarge

  50. Lefty McLefterson:

    Oooh Sargie,

    Four emails in less than two hours? I must’ve hit a nerve.

    Well I’m not going to bother smacking you down tonight because quite frankly I’m playing video games and that’s a whole lot more important to me right now than wasting my time with an idiot like you.

    You keep ‘em coming tho’.

    Talk to you in a few days.

    Kisses,

    ~Lefty

  51. Robert B.:

    Dude, you are fuckin’ awesome, its nice to see other like minded people out there tearing the right wing/ conservative / fundamentalist nut jobs a new one. I am currently in the military so you know what it is like to be faced with right wing talking points constantly so it is nice to have a place to turn to at the end of the day, keep up the good work man
    peace.

  52. A NON MOOSE:

    Sarge, i am disappoint, but i’ll be your huckleberry…
    http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d6/Soniamdissapointreal.gif

    lern 2 inglish, plzkthx. you routinely FAIL to stay in the correct tense or to identify singular/plural nouns, among a myriad of other poor choices. here is an example:

    5. You are wrong about this; they want to watch people who have different viewS. Why is IT that any view that does not agree with you or the President is bullshit? (no, you should use a question mark here, you rhetorical dumbass.) Maybe you should read a little more, rather than listening TO the left wing media.

    … and “she did misquoted” jeebus farking kraist. i so am disappoint srs ly.

    i feel strangely sad for your PhD-wielding, liberal sister-in-law. that must intimidate you like standing next to a half-kenyan muslim president at the urinal. so why don’t you just lighten up there a little bit, francis?

    //lefty, you should maybe enable links, text-formatting and such. it would help fuel the fires of ragnarok here.

  53. Lefty McLefterson:

    Dear Sargie,

    I haven’t forgotten about you. I still just don’t care enough to bother expending the energy to make fun of you the way you truly deserve. Keep checking back tho’. This might be your lucky weekend.

    Kisses,

    ~Lefty

  54. Shelbaby:

    Hey, Robbie. If you’re complaining about Lefty not being intelligent enough for you, why is it okay that a “GENIUS” like your beloved GLENN BECK only went to ONE SEMESTER of college!? Please.
    Also, my dear boy, you’re simply not considering the fact that maybe a die-hard liberal/ democrat like myself might watch Glenn Beck every night, because I’m not completely closed-minded and ignorant like yourself and the rest of the people who share your political beliefs. A lot of left wingers watch right wing news so they can be aware of the other side. You should try it some time you ignorant scum.

    <3, Shelby – A 15 year old political enthusiast.

  55. John:

    Wow, your site is terrible. Not only is it not funny, but its poorly done. Do you know BP is an Obama contributor? I don’t see any disdain for that.

  56. Lefty McLefterson:

    My site is poorly done? Have you taken a look at the Drudge Report?

    Are you suggesting that President Barack Hussein Obama is personally responsible for the actions of every single entity who donated to his campaign?

    That sounds like really solid Conservative logic. The same kind of logic that explains how the universe was created in only 6 days and how Sarah Palin has impeccable foreign policy credentials.

    President Barack Hussein Obama (I love how that name bugs you guys) should be using this crisis as further evidence that America should pull its collective head out our collective ass and make a serious commitment to alternative energy sources.

    He’s not nearly as Liberal as you whiny little Conservative bitches seem to think he is.

  57. Ainsley:

    Ooh I’m really scared of you IronySucks. It’s funny how the stupidity of liberal arguments just makes me more sure of my views as a conservative. I can’t believe a liberal can even speak of economics without being ashamed of the stimulus package. It’s basically taking a situation that’s already bad and deciding to make it worse. Oh and the crying baby picture doesn’t make any sense because from kindergarten kids in school are indoctrinated with liberal views. It amazes me how liberals can accuse republicans about something that is true about liberals! I also don’t feel that I can expose faulty logic without addressing the comments of LewisOfTheLeft. You really think that Bush should be tried for defendng our nation and people who are not powerful enough to defend themselves? Maybe you should open your eyes to the fact that there is evil going on in the world and our country has the means to stop it. When this is the case it becomes our resposibility to stop it. Terrorists don’t negotiate. As far as your stance on abortion goes, I’m surprised that you don’t think of taking the life of an innocent baby as “a crime against humanity.” The conservative stance on abortion is about value for human life. You wouldn’t like it if people decided that it should be legal to kill people with weak political arguments because it’s more convenient. You wouldn’t stand a chance. As far as gay rights go, they have all the same rights as everyone else. The only thing they can’t do is get married; since you have quite limited knowledge I feel compelled to inform you that marriage is a biblical concept. Since gay people don’t believe in the Bible then what is the point of them partaking in a biblical concept? I don’t know any conservatives who discriminate against gay people but one thing I do find discriminatory is what you say about Christians. You made the weak argument telling Christians to prove the existence of God but until you can prove that he doesn’t exist you should keep quiet about the issue because your ignorance is becoming abundantly clear. Oh and about the spell-check thing, as long as we’re talking about things that are completely irrelevent I should tell you that I don’t need to use spellcheck because I know how to spell. Oh and I also feel the need to point out that you had a couple run-on sentences in your comment. This makes me wonder whether you graduated from highschool or just decided to drop out and live off of welfare.
    +1

  58. DLZ:

    Ainsley, it’s funny that you talk about us dropping out of school when you haven’t even heard of paragraphs before. Your big conservative wall of text would even make teenagers facepalm. Also, are you quite sure you know how to spell? I won’t talk about typing errors where a letter is missing because they are “irrelevent”, but maybe you should consider that spellchecker after all.

    That’s it for the technicalities. I will leave the tearing down of the actual argument to you, Lefty. I don’t want to steal your spotlight.

  59. historiophiliac:

    Ainsley, your penis is showing.

  60. Lefty McLefterson:

    First off I really owe Sargie a reply to his rant from a couple of months ago, but I simply don’t give a shit.

    Okay Ainsley, let’s take a look at the adolescent ramblings of yet another right-winger crybaby.

    Wow, you’re a moron.

    No, kids aren’t indoctrinated in Kindergarden.

    Yes, Bush should be tried as a war criminal. You do realize that the one shot he actually had at defending our nation he blew. He’s the one who went on vacation for the month prior to 9/11. He’s the one who ignored the President’s daily intelligence briefing (6 Aug 2001) that said “Bin Laden determined to strike in US. He’s the one who used rendition and torture to get around the Geneva Conventions when following the law was too inconvenient. Let’s not forget the illegal wiretapping and disregard for civil liberties whenever he felt like it.

    Are you really a conservative who believes that the US should be the world’s policeman? Are you wiling to pay for it? Or are you one of the ones bitching and whining about our deficit while there are two wars (started by Obama’s predecessor) going on? If you’ve been bitching about the deficit you might want to shut your pie-hole.

    I love how the conservative stance is supposed to be value for human life, except for killing or deporting brown people, or possibly executing as many people as possible? Are you a big death penalty supporter as well with your conservative respect for human life? Or do the conservatives just want to be able to decide who lives and dies?

    Your description of the Republican stance of gay rights is just a tad inconsistent. You say they have all of the same rights and then in the very next sentence contradict that. I mean you’re a conservative so I guess I shouldn’t expect you to be rational or even consistent, but jesus dude. Your assertion that you don’t know any conservatives who would discriminate against gays really means that you are either a liar or you don’t know very many conservatives. You might try turning on the f’ing TV or using “the internets”.

    Let’s take another second and make something clear here. The bible is a work of fiction! You can get all worked up over gay rights and how your 6,000 year old book of mythology looks down on it, but it’s still just a book of fairy tales. You don’t get to claim that the concept of marriage comes from the bible any more than you get to claim that the zombie resurrection story (aka Jesus) belongs solely to the bible. The bible is a bunch of tribal stories told and retold, borrowed and stolen, from other tribes for thousands of years. But in the end it’s all just a hocus-pocus mumbo-jumbo superstitious bullshit.

    It’s also not my problem to prove that your make-believe God exists. If you’re the one making the assertion then that’s your problem. You can’t prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn’t exist either.

    ~Lefty “I’ll save you a seat by the fire” McLefterson

    ps Please don’t misinterpret the fact that I responded to your rant as respect for your opinions

  61. JamesF:

    Hey Lefty. I was looking for something you were describing to me, but instead I found this post, and I couldn’t help but reply…

    1.) Yes, kids are indoctrinated, starting in kindergarten. That is why every religion wants to get ahold of kids at a young age. But they are indoctrinated in schools. Haven’t you seen kids out holding protest signs during teachers strikes? Do you think they came up with that idea all on their own??

    2.) Presidents taking vacations are bad..ok got it;) Does also go for parties and Broadway shows at the Whitehouse? How about golfing? Watching basketball?

    3.) I for one would to have the US pull out of the UN and let the rest of world pick up the slack. The problem is that this would have a myriad of consequences at home. Foreign policy and national defense are the responsibility of the federal government..making sure people can retire, or have healthcare is not. So in times of tight $$, you have cut the things that are not absolutely necessary, including items that should not be under the fed’s anyways.

    4.) Funny argument comparing the death penalty to abortion. Doesn’t it strike as a bit odd to argue that convicted criminals(usually of grievous crimes) should have a right to life, but an innocent unborn(or maybe even if they are partially born) does not? I find it unbelievable that anyone thinks this way…

    5.) Gays have all the rights that I do, they want new rights. Fine with me. Propose an amendment and get it ratified. Or better yet, goto a state that allows you to do what you want. That is the beauty of the federal system. IF I live in MA and don’t think gay marriage is good..I can move. If I live in CA and think gays should be married, I can move to MA…no federal law is needed.

    6.) I think your thoughts on the Bible and the constitution are probably not that different;) Just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo that can say whatever you want it to. If someone wants to believe in the bible, why denigrate them? Does it harm you any more than someone being gay harms someone else?

    And still, after all that, if you point me to the item you were talking about earlier, I would like to look at it:)

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